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2001 ALA Midwinter Conference Meetings
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January 12 and 14, 2001



Friday, January 12, 2001
2:00–4:00 p.m. — GHAT (Grand Hyatt Hotel), Independence Rooms D & E


Attendance:
Members: John Attig (Penn State University); Ann Caldwell (Brown University); Janet Carter (UCLA); Bill Fietzer (University of Minnesota); Wayne Jones (MIT); Arlene Klair (University of Maryland); Keith Powell (Alabama State University); Rob Withers (Miami University of Ohio); Mary Woodley (California State University – Northridge)
Others: Judy Ahronheim (University of Michigan); Allene Hayes (Library of Congress); Sarah Holmes (KPMG); Alice Jacobs (National Library of Medicine); Sue Vitn(?) (Library of Congress); Cecilia Preston (Preston & Lynch); Zoe Stewart-Marshall (University of Hawaii); Aran West (Armstrong Atlantic State University)

  1. Welcome from Bill Fietzer, Chair

  2. Announcements
    The Electronic Communications Committee issued an invitation to NRMC to send someone to their meeting on Sunday for a discussion of their report prior to submitting it to ALA Council. Arlene Klair will attend.

  3. Introductions
    Members and guests introduced themselves.

  4. Review of meeting agendas
    Discussion of the LC Bicentennial Conference on Bibliographic Control Topical Discussion Groups’ call for comments, which was agenda item 13b, will be deferred to the Sunday NRMC meeting because the ALCTS Board will hear a report on the same topic at their meeting on Saturday. Janet Carter will attend.

  5. Review of rosters
    The Chair distributed what is believed to be the most current version of the roster. If changes are needed, get them to the chair.

  6. Minutes of 2000 ALA Annual Conference NRMC meetings
    Minor changes were made to lists of attendees. Mary Woodley moved and Janet Carter seconded that they be approved and they were.

  7. NMRC Web Page Reorganization
    Wayne Jones and Mary Woodley suggested reorganizing the NMRC pages by topic versus administratively which is the current structure. Five broad links were suggested: Networked resources; Metadata; Task Forces and Reports; Links and Liaisons; About NMRC. A plan and final report will be provided at annual conference 2001. It was observed that by then ALA's thinking on web sites might also be clearer. Being able to search the NRMC web site is a desirable option, as is not having more than three levels of links and having the ability to search the Standards Bibliography but technically the bibliography is an ALCTS publication. There was support for having the bibliography on the top level. It was further suggested that the Chair of the committee be named on the top page so people would know whom to contact and that there be a “News” tag. Topics such as the copyright report could be removed from the bibliography and done as a situation report. However, it was determined that the copyright report was now considered to be outside NRMC’s scope and had been moved. The Committee accepted John Attig.s offer to mount a mock-up on his server.

  8. NRMC Proposed 2001 Program
    Janet Carter and Mary Woodley are working on a program whose title as originally submitted was “The Effect of Metadata on Searching the Internet” but now is “Impact of Metadata on Searching the Internet.” This program is on the Virtual/Digital Library slot/track in the program. Having topic tracks is new for the 2001 conference. The program structure is a moderator with four speakers. As speakers develop the topic, Mary will send them to the committee for comment. Clifford Lynch will be asked to speak first and give the “big picture.” Cecilia Preston, Wayne Jones, Arlene Klair, Bill Fietzer, and Janet Carter will each take notes covering a different speaker for the program report.

  9. Standards and Standards Bibliography Update
    Cecilia Preston reported that NISO publications are now free on the NISO web site. Dublin Core is moving through the NISO approval process. No one is implementing BICI. SFX is a hot new standard developed by Van de Stampel and being implemented by Ex Libris. Regarding the Standards bibliography, the question was raised as to when an emerging standard should be incorporated. The consensus was to add it to the bibliography after it has survived awhile. Other observations: the bibliography still shows NRMC’s old name. John Attig will send the change to ALCTS. Arlene Klair reported on the updates and additions made to section 3 (Mark-up languages) and 6 (Metadata). LITA’s TESLA Committee, of which Arlene is also a member, will point to the NRMC bibliography for this information instead of duplicating it. Wayne Jones’ concept of sub-dividing Section 6, since it is now very long, will be implemented. There was a discussion of giving editors/compilers credit in the bibliography for their work in order to support applications for tenure or permanent retention. This idea was favorably received and will be implemented. Also discussed was how many different places standards exist on the ALA web site. Keeping links updated represents duplication of effort. There is the related issue of how to notify all interested parties that a new standard is coming out or an existing one is up for review when the target audiences are scattered everywhere. Arlene Klair and Cecilia Preston will work on a proposal for an ALCTS Standards Committee filling a function similar to the LITA TESLA Committee. It will be presented to the committee at the annual conference.

  10. NRRC/Media Resources Committee Liaison and Program Volunteer
    The Media Resources Committee asked if NRMC was interested in co-sponsoring a program. While there has been overlap of the groups in the past, now that roles have been defined, there is little overlap now. Therefore no co-programming or liaison is warranted. It was suggested that the groups share minutes and that the NMRC chair contact the Media Resources Committee chair before ALA meetings to see if there are common issues. NRMC needs to determine if it needs to cover new areas such as streaming audio and video. This should be a future meeting topic.

  11. Updates and discussion:

    1. CC:DA (A. Sandberg-Fox, liaison)
      Anne Sandberg-Fox reported on revision to chapter 9. Changes are in final proof. A large unresolved issue is area 3. It will remain unaddressed for now. A proposal for eliminating area 3 is likely. Chapter 12 is expanding to cover serial and integrating resources. The draft is almost final. A new appendix covers changes which are of sufficient extent to require creation of a new record. Regarding URL/URNs, many feel it is not clear whether they are required or not. This will be taken up in the future. The demo of a re-arranged AACR2 got a lukewarm reception. It is on hold.

    2. MARBI (J. Attig) John Attig reported Dublin Core qualifiers will be taken up on Saturday. Competing code lists for language and geographic area will be taken up on Sunday.

    3. Old Business

      1. NRMC Reorganization
        Deferred to Sunday
      2. CC:DA Task Force on Metadata Report
        Four people volunteered to work on different aspects.
        1. Conceptual Maps – Mary Woodley, Cecelia Preston and Janet Carter
        2. Cataloging – John Attig, Janet Carter, Wayne Jones, Judy Ahronheim, Allen Hayes (LC)
        3. Issues of Interfacing – Wayne Jones, Arlene Klair, Mary Woodley
        4. Non-traditional Knowledge Management – Cecelia Preston, Keith Powell, Zoe Stewart-Marshall (Univ. of Hawaii)

      3. New Business
        Deferred to Sunday’s meeting.

      4. Adjournment
        Meeting adjourned at 4:15 pm


      Sunday, January 14, 2001
      9:30–11:00 a.m. — Renaissance Mayflower Hotel, South Carolina Room


      Attendance:
      Members: John Attig (Penn State University); Ann Caldwell (Brown University); Janet Carter (UCLA); Bill Fietzer (University of Minnesota); Wayne Jones (MIT); Arlene Klair (University of Maryland); Keith Powell (Alabama State University); Rob Withers (Miami University of Ohio); Mary Woodley (California State University – Northridge)
      Others: Judy Ahronheim (University of Michigan); Robert DeCandido (New York Public Library); Arno Kastner (New York University); Ann Sandberg-Fox (consultant); Jackie Shieh (University of Michigan)

      1. Welcome
        Bill Fietzer welcomed all members and guests to the meeting.

      2. Introductions
        All members and guests in attendance introduced themselves by stating their names and institutional affiliations.

      3. Announcements
        Judy Ahronheim reported that the 2003 ALA annual conference will be held jointly with the conference of the Canadian Library Association in Toronto, and that the committee may perhaps need to plan ahead even further in order to present programs and hold meetings.

        Fietzer said that he had followed up on the discussion at Friday’s committee meeting about the suggestion for an ALCTS-wide committee on standards. He talked to both Carlen Ruschoff and Charles Wilt about the protocol for moving this suggestion forward. Fietzer will be part of the agenda of the ALCTS board meeting on Tuesday, Jan. 16, at which he will propose a task force to study the feasibility of establishing a standards committee. Tentative volunteers for any such task force were Ahronheim, Wayne Jones, and Cecilia Preston.

        Ann Sandberg-Fox, who serves on the ALCTS Fundraising Committee, reported that no money has yet been approved for any ALCTS programs at Annual 2001. One of the goals is to collect funds so that honoraria may be given to speakers, for which the committee is investigating corporate sponsorships, mostly vendors and publishers.

      4. Library of Congress Bicentennial Conference on Bibliographic Control for the New Millennium
        Sandberg-Fox reported that the conference was a year in the planning, originally focusing on cataloging, subject access, and current standards, but eventually being broadened to include metadata and more.

        The conference lasted two and a half days, Nov. 15-17, 2000. About 30 papers were presented, followed by commentaries and panel discussions. The keynote speech was given by Michael Gorman, and the after-dinner speech by Clifford Lynch. There were five main topics:

        • Library cataloging and the web
        • Current library standards
        • Future directions
        • Experimentation
        • Partnerships

        The main goal was to bring representatives together from the various interested communities (e.g., libraries, vendors), and to develop a concrete action plan that LC would initiate. Sandberg-Fox gave brief summaries of some of the papers. They were followed by breakout sessions on eleven topics, with each group assigned the task of coming up with recommendations, which were then presented to all attendees. These recommendations are available on the conference’s website ( http://lcweb.loc.gov/catdir/bibcontrol/recommendations.html).

        An action plan will be developed, focusing on both short-term (12-18 months) and long-term (3-5 years) projects. LC hopes to have the plan developed by Apr. 2001.

        The multiple versions (aka multiple manifestations) issue was addressed to some extent at the conference, and there may be a special forum on this topic in the future, sponsored by LC. Sandberg-Fox noted that there already is a PCC Task Force on Multiple Manifestations of Electronic Resources (http://lcweb.loc.gov/catdir/pcc/tgmuler.html), as well as the CC:DA Task Force on an Appendix of Major and Minor Changes (when and when not to make title changes), the latter of which was to meet later in the day ( http://www.ala.org/alcts/organization/ccs/ccda/tf-appx1.html). It was noted that the CC:DA task force is dealing with the AACR rules specifically, and not with the multiple versions issue broadly.

        Fietzer recommended that NRMC members check out the conference site (http://www.loc.gov/catdir/bibcontrol/), partly so that the committee might determine which issues it might want to address once LC has repackaged the comments into an action plan. Cybercasting of the conference is still available on the site, and the proceedings are to be published by this summer (edited by Sandberg-Fox), with a sale price of about $10.

      5. Old business

        1. NRMC reorganization
          The three alternatives are to keep the old organization as is, to adopt the recommendations of the Task Force on Review of NRMC Structure, or to move to an ad hoc task force system (as we have been operating under since the summer). Keith Powell and Jones spoke favorably of the ad hoc task force option, saying that it produces a lean and efficient method of operation in which the committee is able to be more focused and to respond quickly to issues as they come up. Ahronheim said that a certain amount of formality in procedure and organization is necessary, for example in order to produce a charge for the committee and to produce membership lists and other documents. The structure recommended by the Task Force on Review of NRMC Structure — i.e., maintaining only the Outreach, Programs, and Standards subcommittees — was also discussed, and there was some feeling that these could be task forces instead of standing committees.

          Jones moved that all subcommittees be eliminated and that the NRMC change to a pure ad hoc task force model. The motion was carried.

        2. Current task forces
          There are currently two task forces at work: one dealing with the bibliography and one dealing with the program for Annual 2001. Fietzer will be formulating their charges and sending them to the committee via email.

      6. New business

        1. IFLA 2001
          Mary Woodley and Ahronheim agreed to be part of a task force which will contact Mary Larsgaard about NRMC’s possible participation in an IFLA 2001 event.

        2. Preconference 2000
          Jones reported that the book based on the proceedings of the metadata preconference at Annual 2000 is currently in production at ALA Editions. The title will be Cataloging the Web: Metadata, AACR, and MARC 21. It is scheduled to be published by summer 2001.

      7. Adjournment
        Fietzer adjourned the meeting, thanking all for attending.


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